is alleging that the white house and the president, knowing that this story was false, pushed it out. >> right. so, sean spicer met with this wealthy republican businessman and this fox news contributor and investigate rod wheeler. he just confirmed to us that they actually did talk about the seth rich case during that meeting but he characterized it as a ten-minute meeting and he did it out of respect for someone who goes on tv and defends the president quite a bit. and it's also worth noting, though, that fox is pushing back strongly on this, butowski is pushing back strongly. both of them say this lawsuit's not true and it's full of errors, but the claims are quite explosive. >> this is, david chalian, the definition of fake news, if you want to go there. if the allegations are correct. this, you know, the story's entirely false. this poor family has been saying to fox news -- fox retracted the story, but again, the allegations that this went as high as the white house, the push this false narrative out there. >> one of the allegations in