president to wake up and suddenly it seems like without any preamble or public discussion, to say that they're going to be kicked out of the military? >> well, anderson, it sounds to me like he was having this discussion with his military advisers. i don't know. but that's certainly the way it sounds to me. >> no one will say where the discussion was. it seems like before heads of each branch of the military were caught offguard. >> anderson, i don't know. let me just say this. i hate to disappointment my friend christine. but on a scale of -- >> it's a low bar, jeffrey, low bar. >> when you think of that rally in youngstown last night, the president didn't say this there. if there were a time to maximize it politically, it was right then and there with all the tef vision cameras including cnn were on it, in front of thousands, he could have done that. i honestly don't think this issue registers with most americans. good lord, i saw a poll during the campaign that said abortion