starting debate is really telling america that you're fine with obamacare. but being fine with obamacare isn't an option for another reason. because it's gone. it's failed. not going to be around. >> there was more to that. jim, i remember, when he was specifically talking to senator heller and saying, hey, if you're not, you know, for this, wink, wink, and he had this uncomfortable smile, like, where's the butt approximateb b button. >> that smile was melting like an ice cream cone on a 150-degree day. it's like right now, think of the entire health care process, repealing and replacing obamacare as a giant jenga tower with all those wooden blocks. you don't want to -- all you're doing is saying, let's keep going. let's keep voting on this. let's continue with the legislation. you don't want to be the one guy who says, no, i don't want to do it and the entire tower comes