kislyak, et cetera, et cetera. he portrays him as innocent, and that may well be. but throughout all of this, he didn't deny that these meetings took place. >> i think one thing that the investigation will be looking at is inconsistencies in his testimony. so on the one hand with the e-mail about the trump tower meeting in june of 2016, kushner says i didn't even read that whole exchange, because obviously there was one part of that, maybe incriminating is not the word, but it says the russian government supports your father's campaign and we want to give you information. he said, i didn't read that part, i knew nothing about the meeting. on the other hand, he talks about an e-mail we got from gucifer or something or other. he read that one and took it to the secret service and said is this anything i should be worried about? little things like that, the investigators, when he goes before the house intelligence committee, will be honing in on. >> remember, the reason he paid attention to that is because there was a threat to release all of his father-in-law's tax