align, but if they don't, there will be further i thy that speaks to his character, but certainly to the character of his lawyers and the legal advice he's getting. as best as i can remember, legal ease inside that -- i understand kushner's efforts to said up a back channel during the transition. what's your takeaway on that this. >> i gra he with michael he's got the best lawyers that money can buy. no surprise there. blue the fact is private citizens don't set up back channels with hostile foreign