testify, obviously he gets credit for that. i will say the one part that seems quite credible and conforming to my unreporting is that both the campaign and the transition were incredibly ad hoc affairs, especially during the transition. let's be honest, i don't think they even expected to inwin the presidency. jared kushner never expected to be doing a transition, so to that extent, i think we can give them a bit of the benefit of the doubt in terms of some of those contacts that he had, that it's possible he didn't realize the gravity or the way they would look to outsiders months later. >> but now we know, his version of events, so from here on out, if anything changes, we have a problem. thank you so much. president trump once again pushily insults hi attorney general. have you seen this? calling jeff sessions