al al alan de alan, part of his team. >> i was behind the goldmans in the second row. and i look looked a little different then. it was a long time ago. it is not an exaggeration to say it was a long time in history. it was a celebrity attraction but the issues of race, gender, wealth -- >> class. >> class. that we all learned about. explored. >> it changed the media. and it was -- it did usher in reality television. i was working for the local fox station here in new york. we developed a program called o.j. today. that's what we did all day pretty much up until prime time or maybe until the 10:00 news came on.