hillary clinton, he mentioned her almost a dozen times in this interview. >> this is all part and parcel, i think, brianna, of the constant talking about the popular vote versus the electoral vote. the first three or four months there were maps being brought in he was bringing up at every event he could. the 2016 somewhat for donald trump is a touchstone that proves everything in his life. remember, this is a guy, believe it or not, views himself as someone on the outside looking in all the time. his father was a developer in queens, not manhattan. when he was a developer in manhattan, he wasn't welcomed into the old money crowd there, that he had to make his own golf courses because he wasn't necessarily welcomed into all those golf courses. he comes to washington in 2011 and seth meyers and barack obama make fun of him for a full night at the white house correspondents' dinner. so it was proof positive that he knew better that all the people who were laughing at him were