you have subsidies, fines that go through if you don't have insurance. so completely enmeshed in the federal government. to say that we'll step back, i don't see how that can be possible actually. >> that's right. and the one thing you wonder is republicans have been trying to repeal obamacare for seven years. so if they fail, if they can admit defeat that, and i'm not sure that will happen, but if they do, does that mean the fever breaks and they start to work with democrats and conversely do democrats start to work with republicans. that is a real open question. i don't see how that happens in the short term. >> you can't leave democrats out of this conversation because it seems like their lone cause is opposing trump policies. you have to stand for something at some point. they have to come to the table, too. takes two to tango. we'll see if they do. zach wolf, thank you. so could obamacare real fail is this experts don't think that