small gestures and larger gestures. i think this may be a sense that the president has that he has acceptance among a european leader. >> ron brownstein, what did the president know and when did he know it? it's a cliche question. it's really in play right now because of the new reporting from cnn overnight that says a lot of the white house aides might be in jeopardy of being investigated by the special counsel because how this unfolded. michael itzkoff told yahoo news alan garten, chief legal officer of the trump organization were informed about the e-mails in the third week of june after they were discovered by lawyers for kushner. we know because of the reporting from "the new york times" that white house aides were part of the initial very misleading response from donald trump jr., and now they'll have to answer for this, maybe under oath, ron. >> that is why, you can see in