where they just directly go after the leakers. they don't necessarily go after the substance of what has been leaked, although, they will on the edges to try to discredit. but her quote was the only thing i see inappropriate about the meeting was the people who leaked the information on the meeting after it was voluntarily disclosed. if you talk to folks in the national intelligence world, they will tell you they see a lot of problems with that meeting. frankly, even those in the campaign finance world. >> i want to john on that. the irony here is she's focusing on the leakers with this, but the president is tweeting about a report from anonymous sources where these people were leaking that four out of the 7 of the memos contained classified information. there's cherry picking going on. >> of course. everything that donald trump was and has done since he's been in office has been on his terms. it's on his rules, and he -- if it works to his advantage, and we should say most politicians do this as well.