had some. and his second explanation, he does explain that this person said that they had some information on hillary clinton, and that the explanation seemed so vague and ridiculous, made no sense to him, then after that, it turned to the russian adoption and the human rights issues, at which point he cut it off. and -- the question i think we all have is that, people close to trump have been asked, were there other meetings? this came as a result of jared kushner re-filing his sf-86 form in which he included this meeting. so the question is, we didn't know about this meeting and were there other meetings what happens we should have known about? at this point all we know is what donald trump jr. said occurred. >> you said this was a significant new development we're reporting on over the past couple days. tell us why?