nature of his own intelligence agencies? then saying we need to move on. i don't think we can move on, and i don't think that russia could be a partner in a cyber security unit. i think that would be dangerously naive for this country. if that's our best election defense, we might as well just mail our ballot boxes to moscow. i don't think that's an answer at all. >> i want to talk to cyber security in a minute. are you saying that the president is not telling the truth about what happened in that private meeting? >> i'm saying as much as i like nikki haley, she wasn't in the room any more than i was. and it's just strange credulity that the president took such a different position privately with vladimir putin than he took publicly the day before. why on earth would you do that and so undermine your own position? we're, i guess, meant to believe he's much stronger in private than he's willing to be publicly.