intelligence committee says he has seen no evidence of that whatsoever. has the president seen evidence of this or is he making it up? >> i don't believe he's making it up. i think he believes it. >> hey, the chinese were hacking even though i see no evidence of it? build when you look at his statement on the intelligence community, and i don't think he meant it as a knock on them. good lord, the media in the bush era was all over the fact that the intelligence community said that there was -- that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq and then they weren't. so this is like saying the obvious here. i don't think it's meant to be a slur. he's just simply being cautious when it comes to this. and i will say, i think matt may be right here, that he did do a great speech today in poland. i mean, it's really, if i may say, reagan-esque. >> this is the least shocking thing, jeffrey lord. >> i didn't want to --