more on this. >> in this -- this is one of the cases where people out there who are fans or not fans of the united nations, this is one of those things there's been meetings, there's been condemnations, there's been sanctions, i covered the white house, we have had these conversations now for a similar long time. >> you also talk about the isolation of north korea, you forget how many nations there are that do have diplomatic relationships with pyongyang. the president just got out of a phone call with the president of egypt, wherein the president reminded the president about -- there is some way to go, there may be some way to go before, as isolates as iran was before the diplomacy meetings there.