joint military exercises and also stop the deployment of the anti missile defense shield. that is an untenable position for the united states and others. perhaps some more sanctions, perhaps some more deployment of american military power to the region and most certainly people are saying increase the sanctions and the pressure on chinese companies that do business with north korea. >> well, will any of this be effective? she also spoke with a former cia now with the heritage foundation who actually sat down with diplomats and he said a denuclearized is totally off the table and they would either step down or fight. really what are the options? >> all right. white house officials have reason to hope president trump's second european trip will be