violence or johnny depp or ted nugent. both of them and people considering -- i think that's a reasonable approach to this. the other thing is what it does is distracts. instead of another segment talking about an immoral health care bill or another segment about the disaster of overting on the murder of casteel, we are talking about an actor, talking about ridiculous comments. >> right, but it should be called out. >> of course. absolutely. >> right. it should be called out. guy is making the point, keith, you can jump on it. yes, you can say johnny depp stop, cathy griffin stop. does this help democrats at all? >> it doesn't help democrats or anyone. it's not good to have this rhetoric in the discourse. i think what guy is doing is envitment of you and me,