in fact, it's true, do you know if these tapes exist? >> i don't have the slightest idea. it is, again, we sometimes think things couldn't get stranger. but the notion that the president of the united states weeks and weeks ago, in his unprecedented firing of jim comey, suggested that there might be tapes and were a month plus later, and we still don't know whether there's tapes. you just can't make this stuff up. >> senator mark warner of virginia, thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. in a moment we're going to get the panel's take on what senator warner just said. also more on just what the cia director could and should have done about michael flynn. bell r. ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures.