your home defensing your family. i -- i just don't see how people shoot people or kill people, attack people. here's somebody that i've never met and to my knowledge never met anybody on that field and yet he drove a fair distance, and whether he intended to do what he did or did it on the spur of the moment, when he started shooting, he was shooting to kill people, and thank god he wasn't a very good shot and thank god we had security officers on scene that shot back and -- and deflected him from shooting the members. had he been able to get inside the -- the fence on the first base side into the dugout there were 15 to 20 members and staff that were just laying on ground, and they were not targets so long as he was outside the