i'm in the back seat. jeff duncan is walking into the front passenger seat. his aide is driving the car. as jeff's getting in, there's an individual that's kind of approaching our general direction. i wasn't sure he was approaching our car. then did he come to the car and then asked the question are those republicans or democrats out there. not really a friendly guy, not nice. jeff said they were republicans. then he immediately kind of clicked and he turned around. again, i thought it was a little weird but not at the weird level where this guy's a security risk. but in the picture, it does -- it matches the type of guy. i thought it was probably late 50s, early 60s. they reported he's 66. that probably fits pretty good. >> what did he look like? >> he was like late 50s, early 60s. he had kind of like darker hair with maybe some gray in it. i think he had some facial hair, as well. and he just -- he was dressed kind of not nicely dressed at all but not like he was wearing rags. the type of guy if you were