with all respect to ivanka trump this is a problem that is going to be solved by detailed policy work, people inside the government. there are more than a dozen job training programs. this white house has talked about streamlining it and it require a tremendous amount of coordination between private industry between community colleges, the states have to get involved. there is a meeting of governors of the white house later in the week that has been scheduled. this is it's very intricate policy work and you have to have a lot of information flowing and a lot of different directions and to make it effective is going to require a very serious policy apparatus. so ivanka trump being the face of it, sure, maybe that will be nice, but we really need to see a lot of the details as well. >> very true. errol and julian and tom, always appreciate you being here. thank you. from russia with no love,