>> we are talking about two people. one of who today is a stay-at-home dad in northern virginia and the other is president of the united states, yet, jonathan, you want to talk about whether comey did right or wrong, who cares? >> let me finish. >> let me finish. if he leaks something. who cares? >> we are talking about the president of the united states in the oval office telling the fbi director to stop investigating his friend. >> and the credibility of that friend matters a lot when he's the only guy telling authority. >> it certainly does. >> a specific criminal intent. >> look -- wait a minute. >> why if you are just doing