between al qaeda, is joining al qaeda, you use to have to go and throw hand grenade. to join islamic state, all you have to do is grab a knife. so islamic state has been clever in the way it uses social media to inspire people at the last minute to join the club merely for a statement and we need to crack down on that. >> i know the concerns, too much focus on the media response of the events. in this case, there doesn't seem to be anything to criticize from eight minutes from the first call out. there is question being raised against them on the security services and the guy in manchester, particularly, the ones in london. they were warned about them and they still got away with it. >> many ways you need to look at this type terrorist like epidemic. what are the circumstances that