number summerched in some ways by the things the president has said or the fact that he was fired by the president? >> i think it would be natural for him to feel that way, but my knowledge of him personally is that he rises above that. and as almost all assistants are trained, hey, take yourself out of the subject in terms of a personal situation and be a professional at all times, no matter what provocation. >> so, comey's friend, another friend of his, benjamin wittis, has done the media rounds, and he has been incredibly detailed in describing comey's state of mind, his reaction, his aversion to these conversations with the president, how uncomfortable he was. he even described a moment when comey hid next to the blue drapes when the law enforcement officers were at the white house. is there any question in your mind that benjamin wittis would have gone out there without the blessing of comey? i think he was a messenger for comey before the public for this