and it will also influence public opinion, especially if there's drama and if there's a rather clear pattern of the president really trying to get rid of this piece, get rid of this testimony about flynn, i want this all gone. >> yeah. i have to ask you, eric, about more reporting that you have and get your response to this, about this tweet this morning from president about carter page. he said now it's reported that the democrats who have excorps rated carter page about russia don't want him to testify. he blows away their case against him. and now he wants to clear his name by calling the misleading testimony from james comey witch-hunt. what was the story. >> for months and months the white house distanced itself as much as it could from carter payment. he was a nobody. a hanger on.