interaction with the president. so if you look at the video he's wearing a blue suit and he stands in the part of the room that is physically as far from the president as it's possible to be. in front of blue drapes. >> that was intentional? >> yes, it was intentional. he was trying to camouflage himself. a little bit. and then the president right at the end sees him and says forget the exact quote but oh, there's jim, he's own more famous than i am. >> in the video you see director comey extending his hand. >> what he told me is he was determined that there was not going to be a hug. so he kind of pre-emptively