director testifies, because he believes he will be subpoenaed. these documents will be subpoenaed. he wants to testify. or tell his story, he wants to come out and tell it. so we're going to hear it. it is going to be he said/she said, ambassador. >> talk about testifying in a criminal proceeding, then somebody has to start one up. they haven't done that as far as i can tell. they don't have one going. the situation today, it's as if a bunch of kids on a playground, somebody catches the ball and then drops it and somebody else says, hey, you're out, infield fly rule, and the guy who drops it, what do you mean? we're playing football. they're assessing the wrong kind of proceeding in talking about obstruction of justice and the rest. and that is something that we need to get clear. is there any kind of violation of law that we have seen in