he was forced to mop the floors because his parents hadn't paid off his lunch money debt. at another a teacher says kids go around the cafeteria collecting food scraps from trays. at another, a homeless student in tears afraid show wouldn't be able to graduate because her lunch money debt piled up as her family lost their home. these are just a few examples of lunch shaming. a child through no fault of his or her own treated differently or singled out because they are poor. it is happening in several states, and it's happening right here in america. 76% of school districts have kids with lunch debt, and nearly half of the nation's schoolchildren get free lunch. that is had a massive jump from 17 years ago, and it's a problem my next guest is trying to fix. she is jennifer ramos, executive director of a nonprofit called new mexico apple seed. her team just wrote a law that just passed in new mexico to end this practice, and a similar bill was introduced in congress just yesterday. jennifer, great to have you on.