but because not able to rein in spending, remember all the hand wringing about how it was going to slash the epa, it doesn't do that. and people wonder why do republicans win elections when spending just keeps going up. the democrats last time they were in power, they took a huge political risk to pass health care because they believed it was a norm imperative to give more people access to health care. republicans, the last time i checked when president obama was president said that reining in the debt and the deficit was a moral imperative. when are they going to show some political courage to get that done. >> it is hard for mulvany to stand up there and say that fencing, a steel wall replacing fencing, it's hard to talk about the president's border wall when this is existing fencing that's being updated.