do you feel that you're the opposition to the president? >> i think that we are the watch dogs. we are the fact checkers, the people holding him to account. >> does it pain you to give him credit? >> no. actually, i think that his push in the past week to try to make it seem like there was a lot of action ahead of his 100 days was actually masterful marketing. he got us talking about nafta. he got us talking about his tax reform plan, even if it meant that his staff was scrambling all weekend to come up with a plan. he was able to change the conversation. he is a masterful marketer. i will give him that. but we also do need to hold him to account. that's our job as journalists. >> what do we do to bridge this divide then if a lot of folks feel, as jason feels, that the press hates the president and has contempt for him? you're saying, no, that's not true, we're trying to do our jobs. how do we bridge that? >> i would think for the moment that's a big question. even if we don't have the answer, it doesn't mean that day to day we do what we're supposed to do, which is to report and give out the facts. jason, if you were a reporter and you heard something that