from to travel to moscow and give that speech and he also met with several people. joining us to talk about it is our panel. philadelph phil, let's start with you, you've been with the fbi, you've been with the fisa courts, what did the fbi have on trump besides this dossier? >> i don't think this takes us a great deal forward, if you're going to go to a fisa court, that judge is going to -- you're going to go in with intercepts, directly from the russians with the national security agency would have picked up. you might have even sources, i want someone who i can identify who's directly in contact with you. if you contrast that with what we have here, a former british officer has an informant in moscow, maybe with a sub