meetings may be exactly why the fbi and the justice department are so interested in communications between carter page and russia, page is a former policy advisor for donald trump's campaign. >> i was a junior member of the campaign's foreign policy advisory group. >> reporter: that's what he says. but for months now, president trump's team has been struggling to define his role. even going so far as to deny he was part of their circle. >> he's not part of our national security or foreign policy briefings that we do now at all. >> carter page is a person that the president-elect does not know. >> i don't think i have ever smoke to him or met him. >> reporter: carter page agrees he never met trump personally but it turns out he was part of the campaign and he was part of the investigation of whether russia had ties to carter page before the election.