>> we are following breaking news and this gets to the big showdown in moscow. secretary of state rex tillerson meets with russian president vladimir putin after all. this is a big change from yesterday. there's been a lot of mystery around this. let's get there. let's go to matthew chance. he's got the reporting on this right now. matthew, what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, within the past few seconds, really, kate, it's been confirmed to us by the kremlin that secretary tillerson who is, of course, in moscow for his first official visit as secretary of state along with sergey lavrov, his russian counterpart and the russian foreign minister have been meeting with vladimir putin, the russian president inside the kremlin. it is not clear from the text message that i got from the kremlin spokesman a few moments ago where that meeting is still under way or whether it's already finished, but the fact is the meeting took place which is something that was being questioned really ever since rex tillerson arrived here in moscow