pence and he's doing an interview, talking about bill o'reilly in front of all of these people. >> again, it's very difficult for even the vice president to say, you know, mr. president, don't say that. again, one thing i'll point out -- >> i wish they had thought bubbles. >> mike pence probably had more useful ways to spend his time than sort of being the wingman for donald trump in an interview. but this is how he does things. and except the fact he started at 1% in the polls, was given no chance to do the opposite of what political convention wisdom would do at every turn. >> guys, don't go too far away. we have more breaking news. president trump expresses horror at the chemical attack in syria, saying the gassing of children crossed a lot of lines. he says syria is now his responsibility. what will he do about it?