the states could apply for those waivers. this at its core is in part what those conservatives have wanted. they want the title 1 regulations, the insurance regulations in the affordable care act to come out. why? because they believe those have been driving up premiums. so, this is the effort to try and bring that group along, but the speaker made very clear, it's early effort. take a listen. >> we're at that conceptual stage. we have very productive conversations occurring among our members, but those are productive conditions. that doesn't mean we have language and text that's ready to go and the votes are lined up. >> reporter: now, kate, the white house told the house freedom caucus members last night that they would be sending text up to the hill, and the house freedom caucus members have made clear they are not committing to anything until they see that text, but if you wonder why speaker ryan is so cautious, he said that this is not just about getting one caucus or group on board. this is about getting to 216 votes. and in reality, talking to