this administration cannot either face the truth, or worse, that the truth is as bad as some of us fear. >> interesting perspective. laura? mark warner, senator mark warner says the goal of the hearing was to determine if there was any actual fire. but so far, there's a great, great deal of smoke, he says, given the testimony that we heard today, do you see fire? >> there's a way people don't consider. that is circumstantial evidence do does. that's one of the reasons why michael flynn's testimony may indeed be very useful to the administration, to the investigation. because it may be about placing certain people together, or getting certain facts in a circumstantial way that will lead you to conclude the obvious. whatever that may be ultimately.