you've not spoken to her. this is hypercriticism of someone who's doing her best, someone who has a clear vision for children. she's doing a great job. she's a mother. give her break. she has a great job. >> i think, frankly, she's traveling with the president. she's got her office in the west wing. she's taking her voluntary job -- she is closer to the white house than even melania is. and, frankly, more power to her. but the reality is she isn't really embracing. to terra's point, i think it's an honor and a privilege. i'm going to move my family into the white house so it's not costing taxpayers money. >> listen, i know the money is big thing.