investment for savings and loans dollars, no question about it. >> when the appraisers looked at it, it said it's worth $200 million, not $300 million. bill black went after keating. >> we discovered likely fraud. just really basic things that no honest banker would do. the examiners looked at 52 real estate loans lincoln made. there were no credit reports on the borrowers in all 52. >> on top of that, charles keating has lincoln savings sell uninsured junk bonds and he targets the widows and the retirement community. >> there were 23,000 customers who would buy $250 million of these bonds. >> we had sold our home in sherman oaks. my husband had a stroke. we moved down here, went to lincoln savings.