presidency here. the fact of the matter is we know american names are being unmasked. we know that somehow general flynn's conversation, the transcript of which was leaked, again, another incident of confidential information that was being put out. i think at a certain it's either got to put forward the evidence and say here's what's going on -- >> the only thing i have to say to that jason, is when wikileaks was leaking things about anthony weiner, when they were leaking things about hillary clinton, john podesta's e-mails, all i heard was lock her up. i haven't heard one democrat say lock him up. i've heard democrats say investigate, but -- >> well, but there's a big difference. >> i didn't hear anyone on -- you know, on the other side saying enough with the hillary clinton investigation. >> well, the difference, i mean hillary clinton had an illegal, secret server. >> nobody said it was illegal. >> oh, her secret server? her secret server was definitely illegal. >> it wasn't illegal. >> don, could i just jump in