in trump's lap and called him daddy, he wouldn't know who he is. had no contact. hired him to do a job. with the campaign about six weeks. i was with the campaign from day one. >> wouldn't hire to be campaign manager, would think vetted him. >> when allegations came out he fired him. i talked to korey louen do youski every day for 18 months and after manafort, i talked to kellyanne conway and -- any day. never talked to paul manafort one time. little involvement. >> with you but -- hold on go back from interview to interview on this network with manafort talking about influence in the campaign and trump talking about how influential he was for the campaign. maybe didn't speak to you as radio personality or someone in virginia who helped with the