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needs to be examined very carefully. we never take the federal appropriation for grant. we recognize these are hard decisions that have to be made. i think the reality is we care very much. i spend most of my time on the road. i'm going to be in detroit on friday. i can tell you that there's so many people around the country. there are a lot of people that watch television over the air and they really count so intently on the work that we provide both the work for children as well as what we do for the full audience. >> i think that's really important point. i was talking about netflix and streaming but not everybody has that. not everybody has internet access at home to stream programming. >> here is a statistic that maybe will blow your mind. 40% of the children that watch our preschool programming are watching over the air. i think often times we get caught in this argument that with all of the cable and with all the broad band, what is the

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