care. there are a lot of physicians out there and a lot of other providers that have looked hat the current system and said i can't care for my patients in the way that we believe to be most appropriate because of the rules and regulations and because of the stipulations and because of the costs that have been injected into the program so imagine, if you will, a system that puts patients at the center of it as opposed to insurance companies or the government. that's a system that we believe we can put in place, one that will work, a transition over a period of time to make shower that nobody falls through the cracks. that's the kind of plan that we believe will work for the american people. >> well, it sounds utopian, but i have to say you criticized the medicaid program because one in three doctors don't take medicaid patients, and then you talk -- but the reason that they don't, according to experts, is because the reimbursement rate is so low. i don't know how you're going to improve medicaid if you're taking money away from medicaid. the problem is that doctors are not getting paid enough and you're saying, okay, but we're going to do better with less money, and i don't know an