>> they should take a road trip together and make a playlist together? >> maybe they should just take a long drive. >> again, we laugh about these things but this lack of civility matters when you're trying to negotiate, right? legislate? >> and fascinatingly, president trump has been talking in recent days about the old washington, where democrats and republicans squabble during the day and went out and had dinner at night and got along and how there's an absence of that and how he wishes that existed. good luck. >> john mccain remembers, though, washington where democrats n republicans did socialize. the tea party forces like ron paul, they view mccain and mcconnell as guys as much a part of the problem if not more so in many cases. >> and john mccain sort of famously a few years back referred to rand paul as being in a group of whacko birds. so we're -- there's a continuum here. >> rand paul has a long memory.