will. there is -- the system is in place to exchange sensitive information, staffers have clearances and familiar how to work with classified information and members have the clearances by being elected to the offices. the one thing however that's working against them in my view in this is their politicians. they are republicans or democrats. an independent commission wouldn't have that problem so you have a political vein that's running through this, which always threatens to derail an actual factual investigation. that's a concern i do have. >> steven hall, great to have you on and rod, and gloria borger. the white house and republican leadership scrambling and conservative republicans don't have much love for. one change that could get some on board and later, jorge ramos joins me on a big drop in illegal border crossings. does he think president trump deserves the credit? answer might surprise you. a good place to pursue your dreams.