collusion -- >> there's no suggestion that they all had a private discussion. they were in the same room. >> isn't that the problem with all this stuff, there are all suggestions that the democrats have failed to connect to any kind of collusion or anything that warrants the speculation. i'm not saying there aren't questions, but questions don't always lead to the right kinds of answers. how important is it that the democrats show some there there at some point. >> i would say when does the department of justice show there's some there there soon. >> they've leaked out that we haven't seen any collusion between the trump people and the russians. what will be the straw that breaks the camel's back? how much can they show that equates something really wrong as opposed to circumstance. >> it's going to be some meeting, some discussion, some quid pro quo going on between some entintermediatry with the p campaign if that were to happen and the russian official.