with me now david axelrod and david meacham. it sounds like obamacare or the aca lite, i mean, they rolled out a plan to dismantle the president's signature health care law. some republicans are calling it lite. as i said. what is your reaction to that as a man that was by president obama's side as he crafted this law? >> well, look. i think that what you're seeing here is the collision of politics and the reality of governing. it's been a good strategy of republicans for last three cycles to run against obamacare, to run against the affordable care act. to say we'll repeal and replace it with something better and then they were the dogs that caught the car and now they have to produce and what they're finding is the president has said, we're going to eliminate all those things you don't like about this affordable care act and keep all the good things. well, it is very hard to do