still saw you -- >> russia is good place to look for extreme actions we see lurking in american politics. -- said russian civilization was created as experiment of the worst things, most extreme things that can happen to humanity. and sometimes get hints of it in extreme american policies taken to vast veem extremism. had friends separated because parents labeled enemies of the people. mothers sent to gulag and fathers shot behind kgb headquarters. that's my comparative framework. >> i want to talk about this.