hurdle to overcome. >> it's not going to happen. >> also understand that -- >> go ahead robert? >> perjury cases are difficult to prove. that's not really had a what is on here. i don't think any reasonable person given what we know in the 24 hours that this was a story that attorney general was intending to intentionally mislead the senate on this issue. >> he said i should have told them about the ambassador. >> that's retrospect. that's not perjure. >> that's intent. >> not even close. >> go ahead stuart. >> i wasn't implying by any stretch of the imagination that the attorney general made a willful misleading statement. i was saying that investigation would require to establish that it was made willfully. and statute and law requires