under his watch which diminished those gains. however, saying all president dos it does not mean there are ways of twisting around the truth are all equal and many fact checkers said the trump administration really takes it much further than a lot of people who came before him. it's undeniable, they say, which of course the team trump denies. >> thank you very much. out front, senior political analyst mark preston andette editor and chief of the beast, john avalon. thanks to all. did the president take noo too many liberties with the numbers or did he simply choose the information that works best for his message which after all is what these things are all about? >> more so the latter. he certainly used numbers that he thought could bolter his case, the problem is he didn't go into very specific detail or even a little bit of detail that would explain how he would have, for instance, an infrastructure bill get passed through congress, how it would actually