>> boom, lonnie. >> everywhere around the country democrats are saying, can we have that guy? i mean, look, here's the thing, it is a lot easier to gain perspective on the media when you're not in the public spotlight in the same way any more. but i think the president, the former president has a point. which is that, there is this give and take, we expect from the media and our public officials, that is important to democracy. >> i remember during the obama administration, he would say stuff about fox news, at one point i did this commentary saying, he should stop doing that, he was sort of punching down. people have short memories, no president likes the media, they think the media's horrible. it's part of being president. we'll see if it goes on, you are right, it's heart of the strategy. it's also part of, look at the shiny object. let's talk about the media rather than the bad stories coming in, do you disagree with